We discuss with mendicant pilgrim, Ann Sieben, her upcoming fifth and final leg of the pilgrimage in France dedicated to Saint Martin. She will complete this project on 11/11/25, at the feast of Saint Martin in Tours, France. Ann encourages us to take liminal time before and after our pilgrimages. She shares stories, and the discovery of the Saint Martin connection that led her to create a pilgrimage in Ireland dedicated to fifth and sixth century saints.